[webmin-l] Virtualmin installed subpackages

Discussion:

Roger B.A. Klorese

2017-04-25 02:31:23 UTC

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Can clamav be removed from a Virtualmin-running CentOS system that
doesn't receive mail?

Jamie Cameron

2017-04-25 23:53:34 UTC

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Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
Can clamav be removed from a Virtualmin-running CentOS system that
doesn't receive mail?

Yes, it can - or to be simpler, you could just turn off the clamav server
but keep it installed.

Roger B.A. Klorese

2017-04-26 02:16:24 UTC

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It's an issue of dueling dependencies vs other mail-related packages.

Sent from my iPhone

Post by Jamie Cameron

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
Can clamav be removed from a Virtualmin-running CentOS system that
doesn't receive mail?

Yes, it can - or to be simpler, you could just turn off the clamav server
but keep it installed.
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Roger B.A. Klorese

2017-04-26 20:08:47 UTC

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See below.

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
It's an issue of dueling dependencies vs other mail-related packages.
Sent from my iPhone

Post by Jamie Cameron

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
Can clamav be removed from a Virtualmin-running CentOS system that
doesn't receive mail?

Yes, it can - or to be simpler, you could just turn off the clamav server
but keep it installed.

More specifically: on CentOS using the repo, virtualmin-base depends on
clamav.

Jamie Cameron

2017-04-26 22:14:05 UTC

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Oh, right. In that case, rather than removing the package it's simpler
just to disable the clamd server.

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
See below.

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
It's an issue of dueling dependencies vs other mail-related packages.
Sent from my iPhone

Post by Jamie Cameron

Post by Roger B.A. Klorese
Can clamav be removed from a Virtualmin-running CentOS system that
doesn't receive mail?

Yes, it can - or to be simpler, you could just turn off the clamav server
but keep it installed.

More specifically: on CentOS using the repo, virtualmin-base depends on
clamav.

Teknoskillz

2017-04-29 01:12:24 UTC

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Did the usual package updates today from Webmin, all went ok except when
upgrading Apache2. There was a timeout, and the service never restarted
during the upgrade process.

I did a purge and remove via bash, and a reinstall , but still no go.

=========================================================
Fri Apr 28 22:33:30 UTC 2017
~# sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri
2017-04-28 22
:36:45 UTC; 6ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 22561 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAIL
URE)

Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control
pr...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB:
Apache...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit
enter...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed
wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...

======================================================================

Im not sure if its because I enabled mod_rewrite and there is a new path or
something, but thats
the only change thata major I did with Apache after trying to get the sites
more SEO friendly recetly.
There may have been 1 other module enabled, but I cant remember what it was.
I went in and turned on rewrite
and we are still failing. Any help or ideas out there?

===
Steve

Cecil Yother, Jr.

2017-04-29 03:25:40 UTC

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Post the last 20 lines of the apache log file.

Post by Teknoskillz
Did the usual package updates today from Webmin, all went ok except when
upgrading Apache2. There was a timeout, and the service never restarted
during the upgrade process.
I did a purge and remove via bash, and a reinstall , but still no go.
=========================================================
Fri Apr 28 22:33:30 UTC 2017
~# sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri
2017-04-28 22
:36:45 UTC; 6ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 22561 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAIL
URE)
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control
pr...
Apache...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit
enter...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed
wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
======================================================================
Im not sure if its because I enabled mod_rewrite and there is a new path or
something, but thats
the only change thata major I did with Apache after trying to get the sites
more SEO friendly recetly.
There may have been 1 other module enabled, but I cant remember what it was.
I went in and turned on rewrite
and we are still failing. Any help or ideas out there?
===
Steve
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Teknoskillz

2017-04-29 13:39:34 UTC

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/ var / log / apache2

access.log , error.log and other_vhosts_access.log

all are 0 bytes in file size.

I found /etc/php/5.6/fpm/php.ini
and took a peek at it to see if it defines a path to the error log, but
could not find anything.
I didnt touch that file so I guess its ok.

==
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cecil Yother, Jr." <***@yother.com>
To: "Teknoskillz" <***@comcast.net>; "Webmin users list"
<webadmin-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Apache2 down after package update

Post by Cecil Yother, Jr.
Post the last 20 lines of the apache log file.

Post by Teknoskillz
Did the usual package updates today from Webmin, all went ok except when
upgrading Apache2. There was a timeout, and the service never restarted
during the upgrade process.
I did a purge and remove via bash, and a reinstall , but still no go.
=========================================================
Fri Apr 28 22:33:30 UTC 2017
~# sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri
2017-04-28 22
:36:45 UTC; 6ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 22561 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAIL
URE)
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control
pr...
Apache...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit
enter...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed
wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
======================================================================
Im not sure if its because I enabled mod_rewrite and there is a new path or
something, but thats
the only change thata major I did with Apache after trying to get the sites
more SEO friendly recetly.
There may have been 1 other module enabled, but I cant remember what it was.
I went in and turned on rewrite
and we are still failing. Any help or ideas out there?
===
Steve
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Post by Cecil Yother, Jr.
Post the last 20 lines of the apache log file.
Did the usual package updates today from Webmin, all went ok except when
upgrading Apache2. There was a timeout, and the service never restarted
during the upgrade process.
I did a purge and remove via bash, and a reinstall , but still no go.
=========================================================
Fri Apr 28 22:33:30 UTC 2017
~# sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri
2017-04-28 22
:36:45 UTC; 6ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 22561 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAIL
URE)
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control
pr...
Apache...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit
enter...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed
wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
======================================================================
Im not sure if its because I enabled mod_rewrite and there is a new path or
something, but thats
the only change thata major I did with Apache after trying to get the sites
more SEO friendly recetly.
There may have been 1 other module enabled, but I cant remember what it was.
I went in and turned on rewrite
and we are still failing. Any help or ideas out there?
===
Steve
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Teknoskillz

2017-04-29 14:12:41 UTC

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Did another purge and remove and reinstall and then I ran the journalctrl
command and it says:

========================================================================
--
-- Unit apache2.service has failed.
--
-- The result is failed.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit entered failed state.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Service hold-off time over,
scheduling restart.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: Stopped LSB: Apache2 web server.
-- Subject: Unit apache2.service has finished shutting down
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit apache2.service has finished shutting down.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Start request repeated too
quickly.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache2 web server.
-- Subject: Unit apache2.service has failed
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit apache2.service has failed.
========================================================================

Not too sure what the "start request repeated too quickly" means.

====
Steve

Dave Overton

2017-04-29 17:43:56 UTC

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My suggestion is to try this:

systemctl start apache2.service

Then after it fails, this:

journalctl -xe

That should provide the hints you need to make it happy again. journalctl
should dump what normally would be in the /var/log/message but isn't any
more

Dave

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:13 AM
To: Webmin users list
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Apache2 down after package update
Did another purge and remove and reinstall and then I ran the
=======================================================================
=
--
-- Unit apache2.service has failed.
--
-- The result is failed.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit entered failed state.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-
code'.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Service hold-off time
over, scheduling restart.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: Stopped LSB: Apache2 web server.
-- Subject: Unit apache2.service has finished shutting down
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit apache2.service has finished shutting down.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Start request repeated too
quickly.
Apr 29 14:07:13 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache2 web server.
-- Subject: Unit apache2.service has failed
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit apache2.service has failed.
=======================================================================
=
Not too sure what the "start request repeated too quickly" means.
====
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Maxwell Smart

2017-04-29 17:48:08 UTC

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Ah, thanks for the tip. I thought it was because it was a different OS
than I'm using.

Post by Dave Overton
systemctl start apache2.service
journalctl -xe
That should provide the hints you need to make it happy again. journalctl
should dump what normally would be in the /var/log/message but isn't any
more
Dave

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Teknoskillz

2017-04-30 05:58:54 UTC

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Thought I would try a rollback by doing:

apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1

Turns out there are dependencies missing, so someone on another list

The missing dependencies are probably apache2-data apache2-utils . Try
"apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils"

Tried that, seems like those go in and still it tries to put in apache
2.4.25 even after its purged? Like we arent allowed to use previous Apache
versions anymore? Or is maybe the auto updater locking something
so the new version is always referenced?

=====================================================================================
sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
:~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,203 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70164 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Removing apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
www-browser apache2-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/462 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,717 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-utils.
(Reading database ... 69850 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
.../apache2-utils_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb .
..
Unpacking apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-data.
Preparing to unpack .../apache2-data_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_all.deb
...
Unpacking apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2.
Preparing to unpack .../apache2_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
Setting up apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Enabling module mpm_event.
Enabling module authz_core.
Enabling module authz_host.
Enabling module authn_core.
Enabling module auth_basic.
Enabling module access_compat.
Enabling module authn_file.
Enabling module authz_user.
Enabling module alias.
Enabling module dir.
Enabling module autoindex.
Enabling module env.
Enabling module mime.
Enabling module negotiation.
Enabling module setenvif.
Enabling module filter.
Enabling module deflate.
Enabling module status.
Enabling module reqtimeout.
Enabling conf charset.
Enabling conf localized-error-pages.
Enabling conf other-vhosts-access-log.
Enabling conf security.
Enabling conf serve-cgi-bin.
Enabling site 000-default.
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sun
2017-04-30 17
:39:08 UTC; 5ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 8747 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAILU
RE)

Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit enter...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
:~# apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1) but
2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~
xenial+1 is to be installed
======================================================================================

Teknoskillz

2017-05-01 18:31:09 UTC

Permalink

What a mess this is turning out to be. It looks like apache insists on
php7.x now and
I cant use it, stuck with php5.6 because the sites php is using older code
and developers say
its not worth the time to update it to 7 compatability.

I have posted to the apache lounge saying it would be neat if there was a
"rollback" option
so last known good configuration could be reverted to.

The way things are going now, what do you have to do ? Throw away otherwise
fine working websites
because some php developers cant justify the time or inclination for you
keeping the older stuff around?

We should be able to set things up as we see fit for our own use, and not
have to necessarily jump on the newer
stuff, just because its "new".

Andrey Repin

2017-05-02 01:24:38 UTC

Permalink

Greetings, Teknoskillz!

Post by Teknoskillz
What a mess this is turning out to be. It looks like apache insists on
php7.x now

Apache HTTPD don't care about PHP version.

Post by Teknoskillz
and I cant use it, stuck with php5.6 because the sites php is using older code
and developers say
its not worth the time to update it to 7 compatability.

Then these developers are idiots.

Post by Teknoskillz
I have posted to the apache lounge saying it would be neat if there was a
"rollback" option
so last known good configuration could be reverted to.

This makes very, very little sense.

Post by Teknoskillz
The way things are going now, what do you have to do ? Throw away otherwise
fine working websites because some php developers cant justify the time or
inclination for you keeping the older stuff around?

I'm using co-installable PHP versions provided by Ondřej Surý.
With PHP-FPM SAPI, of course. And I'm no longer using Apache for my projects.
nginx offers way better configuration options.

Post by Teknoskillz
We should be able to set things up as we see fit for our own use, and not
have to necessarily jump on the newer
stuff, just because its "new".

You can do that. You just made this worse for yourself with a lot of senseless
activity that I fail to track though your messages.
But I know for a fact that you can run Apache 2.4 with Apache 1.x PHP SAPI.

--
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Tuesday, May 2, 2017 04:19:38

Sorry for my terrible english...

Andrey Repin

2017-05-06 18:01:45 UTC

Permalink

Greetings, Teknoskillz!

Please keep list mails within the list.

I talked to a youngster I know from the gaming community and he recommended
I go with Debian and use Nginx.
I was curious if everything is configured via bash command line with that
setup or is there a gui for Nginx?

I don't know how complete nginx support in Webmin, sorry.
Last I recall was that Webmin/Virtualmin lacking PHP-FPM support which impedes
deployment of webservers using it as a preferred way of communicating with CGI
daemon.

I use the Webmin portal interface alot, as you know being I am on its
support list with you, and Webmin likes to push
Virtualmin for its web management stuff, so was wondering is it easier to
just install Debian, then install Webmin and
merely look for Nginx in the packages options or is Nginx only offered as a
free trial?

nginx is open-source and free web server. There's a nginx+ commercial offer,
but you would hardly need it unless you have specific needs, like streaming
video and such.

--
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Saturday, May 6, 2017 20:58:17

Sorry for my terrible english...

Andrey Repin

2017-05-06 18:02:36 UTC

Permalink

Greetings, Teknoskillz!

I talked to a youngster I know from the gaming community and he recommended
I go with Debian and use Nginx.

On another note, I would suggest to roll out a new system with Apache and PHP
and re-test your setup in a clear environment. It should work out of the box.

--
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Saturday, May 6, 2017 21:01:51

Sorry for my terrible english...

Teknoskillz

2017-05-21 16:59:01 UTC

Permalink

Gave up in solving this problem, and as per other recommendations, I will be
trying Nigix out soon.

I notices that Webmin's built-in webserver , which is what we log into for
the interface was not effected while Apache was down,
which was a great feature.

Since there is a movement away from apache to a degree, and I guess there is
a Virtualmin module now for Nigix, would it be possible to use
Webmin's built-in webserver as a backup of some sorts in the event Apache
goes down? Perhaps a monitor of some sorts could be devised?

Probably alot of work, but also would be nice if there was a redundancy
where someone could select their primary as Apache or Nigix, and
if possible use Webmins server as the last resort.

I suppose Webmins http server cant do everything that Apache2 does, and some
sites may not work 100%, but it sould at least help keep some sites
up that are only using plain http these days. I know they are few (myself
included) but when this Apache2 problem hit, I was taken out of the search
engines
and all http connections were refused.

Just some feedback and some thoughts for development to Jamie.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Teknoskillz" <***@comcast.net>
To: "Webmin users list" <webadmin-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Apache2 down after package update

Post by Teknoskillz
apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1
Turns out there are dependencies missing, so someone on another list

The missing dependencies are probably apache2-data apache2-utils . Try
"apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils"

Tried that, seems like those go in and still it tries to put in apache
2.4.25 even after its purged? Like we arent allowed to use previous Apache
versions anymore? Or is maybe the auto updater locking something
so the new version is always referenced?
=====================================================================================
sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
:~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,203 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70164 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Removing apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
www-browser apache2-doc
apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/462 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,717 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-utils.
(Reading database ... 69850 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
.../apache2-utils_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb .
..
Unpacking apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-data.
Preparing to unpack
.../apache2-data_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_all.deb
...
Unpacking apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2.
Preparing to unpack .../apache2_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
Setting up apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Enabling module mpm_event.
Enabling module authz_core.
Enabling module authz_host.
Enabling module authn_core.
Enabling module auth_basic.
Enabling module access_compat.
Enabling module authn_file.
Enabling module authz_user.
Enabling module alias.
Enabling module dir.
Enabling module autoindex.
Enabling module env.
Enabling module mime.
Enabling module negotiation.
Enabling module setenvif.
Enabling module filter.
Enabling module deflate.
Enabling module status.
Enabling module reqtimeout.
Enabling conf charset.
Enabling conf localized-error-pages.
Enabling conf other-vhosts-access-log.
Enabling conf security.
Enabling conf serve-cgi-bin.
Enabling site 000-default.
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sun
2017-04-30 17
:39:08 UTC; 5ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 8747 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAILU
RE)
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit enter...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
:~# apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1) but
2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~
xenial+1 is to be installed
======================================================================================
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Cecil Yother, Jr.

2017-04-29 14:13:26 UTC

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How about /var/log/messages? There must be a log file indicating why
it's failing.

Post by Teknoskillz
/ var / log / apache2
access.log , error.log and other_vhosts_access.log
all are 0 bytes in file size.
I found /etc/php/5.6/fpm/php.ini
and took a peek at it to see if it defines a path to the error log, but
could not find anything.
I didnt touch that file so I guess its ok.
==
Steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Apache2 down after package update

Post by Cecil Yother, Jr.
Post the last 20 lines of the apache log file.

Post by Teknoskillz
Did the usual package updates today from Webmin, all went ok except when
upgrading Apache2. There was a timeout, and the service never restarted
during the upgrade process.
I did a purge and remove via bash, and a reinstall , but still no go.
=========================================================
Fri Apr 28 22:33:30 UTC 2017
~# sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Fri
2017-04-28 22
:36:45 UTC; 6ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 22561 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAIL
URE)
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control
pr...
Apache...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit
enter...
Apr 28 22:36:45 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed
wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
======================================================================
Im not sure if its because I enabled mod_rewrite and there is a new path or
something, but thats
the only change thata major I did with Apache after trying to get the sites
more SEO friendly recetly.
There may have been 1 other module enabled, but I cant remember what it was.
I went in and turned on rewrite
and we are still failing. Any help or ideas out there?
===
Steve
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Jamie Cameron

2017-05-21 17:29:33 UTC

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Using Webmin's own webserver as a backup isn't really possible - it is very
simple and specialized (it exists only to run the Webmin UI), and so lacks
most of the features of Apache. For example, it can't even run PHP scripts!

Post by Teknoskillz
Gave up in solving this problem, and as per other recommendations, I will be
trying Nigix out soon.
I notices that Webmin's built-in webserver , which is what we log into for
the interface was not effected while Apache was down,
which was a great feature.
Since there is a movement away from apache to a degree, and I guess there is
a Virtualmin module now for Nigix, would it be possible to use
Webmin's built-in webserver as a backup of some sorts in the event Apache
goes down? Perhaps a monitor of some sorts could be devised?
Probably alot of work, but also would be nice if there was a redundancy
where someone could select their primary as Apache or Nigix, and
if possible use Webmins server as the last resort.
I suppose Webmins http server cant do everything that Apache2 does, and some
sites may not work 100%, but it sould at least help keep some sites
up that are only using plain http these days. I know they are few (myself
included) but when this Apache2 problem hit, I was taken out of the search
engines
and all http connections were refused.
Just some feedback and some thoughts for development to Jamie.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [webmin-l] Apache2 down after package update

Post by Teknoskillz
apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1
Turns out there are dependencies missing, so someone on another list

The missing dependencies are probably apache2-data apache2-utils . Try
"apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils"

Tried that, seems like those go in and still it tries to put in apache
2.4.25 even after its purged? Like we arent allowed to use previous Apache
versions anymore? Or is maybe the auto updater locking something
so the new version is always referenced?
=====================================================================================
sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
apache2-data apache2-utils
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
apache2*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 514 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70372 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Purging configuration files for apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1)
...
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/var/www/html' not empty
so no
t removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/sites-enabled' no
t empty so not removed
dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory
'/etc/apache2/conf-enabled'
not
empty so not removed
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
:~# sudo apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,203 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 70164 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Removing apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
~# apt-get install apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
www-browser apache2-doc
apache2 apache2-data apache2-utils
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/462 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,717 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-utils.
(Reading database ... 69850 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack
.../apache2-utils_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb .
..
Unpacking apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2-data.
Preparing to unpack
.../apache2-data_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_all.deb
...
Unpacking apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package apache2.
Preparing to unpack .../apache2_2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1_amd64.deb
...
Unpacking apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
Setting up apache2-utils (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2-data (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Setting up apache2 (2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~xenial+1) ...
Enabling module mpm_event.
Enabling module authz_core.
Enabling module authz_host.
Enabling module authn_core.
Enabling module auth_basic.
Enabling module access_compat.
Enabling module authn_file.
Enabling module authz_user.
Enabling module alias.
Enabling module dir.
Enabling module autoindex.
Enabling module env.
Enabling module mime.
Enabling module negotiation.
Enabling module setenvif.
Enabling module filter.
Enabling module deflate.
Enabling module status.
Enabling module reqtimeout.
Enabling conf charset.
Enabling conf localized-error-pages.
Enabling conf other-vhosts-access-log.
Enabling conf security.
Enabling conf serve-cgi-bin.
Enabling site 000-default.
Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with
error
cod
e. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for
details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "start" failed.
? apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/apache2; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sun
2017-04-30 17
:39:08 UTC; 5ms ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Process: 8747 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/apache2 start (code=exited,
status=1/FAILU
RE)
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Apache...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit enter...
Apr 30 17:39:08 systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed wit...
Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script
`apache-htcachecle
an' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script
`apache-htc
acheclean' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu17) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
:~# apt-get install apache2=2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.18-2ubuntu3.1) but
2.4.25-3+deb.sury.org~
xenial+1 is to be installed
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